love and lust are inextricably intertwined..

[paul]

In fact, without lust, it's doubtful that love between a man and a bicycle would have a chance to prosper at all.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Independent-Fabrications-Ti-Deluxe-SS-29er_W0QQitemZ300194655788QQihZ020QQcategoryZ98083QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I need to ban myself from the internets for the next 6 days..

[Franz]

Just think, you could take that money and spend it on a few classes to teach yourself to weld titanium tubes together that other people lust over. That way when the apocalypse comes you can be the one all of the elite warlords come to to prepare their combat 29ers for battle.

[paul]

I do enjoy the occasional preparation for post-apocalyptic war..

This looks boring but the urge to create sweet titanium frames @ the BRW is overwhelming
http://www.weldingclass.info/Enrollment_form.html

will need to get a tank of argon or helium for the mig welder

[Art]

I do enjoy the occasional preparation for post-apocalyptic war..

This looks boring but the urge to create sweet titanium frames @ the BRW is overwhelming
http://www.weldingclass.info/Enrollment_form.html

will need to get a tank of argon or helium for the mig welder

Woah, Paul...  that's freakin' exPENsive man !! (and it doesn't even include the cost of forks!?)
If you're serious about this...

...I could give you some private lessons at BRW on 'off' days, or something...
But you'd have to buy the titanium wire spool... !!  (EXPEN$IVE) But they do make it..
look here:  (we'd need .75 to .85 mm dia for the machine.)
   http://www.cartech.com/dynamet/wr_dynamet_weldwire.html

Plus! > you'd also need to purchase some 'scrap' to practice on, so that your final welds come out clean & not lookin' like popcorn...

There's already a tank for the miller, but it's kinda small & it would be wise to rent a 'large' one for such a project.  (oh! ...and that frame-jig you posted a link to before would be wise to have around, too..!!)


(after all THAT, it might just be cheaper to buy the frame???)

[paul]

I'm going to go ahead and start looking for a jig; need to practice building a few steel frames first. Titanium is the ultimate goal and i will take you up on those lessons..

$$$ isn't an issue; it's not even real

[Art]

I'm going to go ahead and start looking for a jig; need to practice building a few steel frames first. Titanium is the ultimate goal and i will take you up on those lessons..

$$$ isn't an issue; it's not even real

Yeah... thanks for reminding me ! 
(I'll have to remind the next investor I approach for $$$ for my patents of that little factoid...)

So, you wanna build a frame... 

Good goin', Paul !   I'm all the hell behind you n' shit.

A couple notes to toss around in your noggin:
--Most guys insist on using a 'tig' for the assembly of a frame, they insist it has more consistent surface-penetration. (this works basically like "torch-n-rod" welding, but harder to learn to do well.)
--Average cost of a 'tig-welder' is from about $500 to $850, and using Ti. 'rod' is much less expensive than using a 'spool' of 'mig-wire'. (both mig & tig will require either Ar/He)
--Faster 'learning-curve' for 'mig' over 'tig'
--Both are functional for welds in steel and titanium (again spools of matching Fe-alloy wire would be needed for 'mig' welding of 'cro-moly' steel frames)

Can't wait!

(got some ideas, too...   )