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Dylan Boroczi
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« on: August 22, 2010, 06:42:39 AM »

Am I crazy for even asking about this? While adventuring through Scotland a few days ago, I found an old completely trashed kids Raleigh on the side of the road, and beneath all the rusty crap I found the rear 16" wheel was laced to an old Sturmey Archer AW 3 speed hub. I ripped out all the spokes and took the hub home. I now realize that the hub is only drilled for 20 spokes, and there's no way I'm ever going to need a 20 spoke Sturmey wheel. So, my question is, would I be completely insane for trying to drill new spoke holes in between the original ones to create a 40 spoke hole hub? It appears that there's more than enough space for it, but I don't know how safe it'll be in the long run.

Also, I could honestly care less if I destroy the hub in the process, I just don't want it to fail on me while riding it.
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« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2010, 11:01:10 AM »

         My concern would be having the offset hole pattern line up.  On every rim I have ever laced (that would be 3) the holes are not dead center in the rim but staggered left, right, left, right.  Drilling extra holes in between would fuck that pattern up.  I say if you can, find a fat, strong rim with holes that are dead center and go for it.  Use a fat rim because it will be able to withstand all the extra holes better.  And I still don't know if I would ever bomb down a hill on that wheel.
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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2010, 03:05:50 PM »

But if the current holes are already offset and one could, say, locate the extra holes exactly halfway in between the existing ones, wouldn't that preserve the offset pattern?

According to Sheldon, most English bikes had 40-spoke rear wheels until the 80s.  http://sheldonbrown.com/wheelbuild.html#spokes

If it's a standard AW with the regular steel flange it shouldn't fail if drilled correctly.  Maybe Enzo has some insights...
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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2010, 07:39:20 PM »

All the more reason for the Bikerowave to reassert itself as a drill-press wielding community hub of bold metal exploration.
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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2010, 09:32:14 PM »

you are crazy.
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« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2010, 08:57:30 AM »

you are crazy.
i feel like that is something you would call "a projection."  hmmmm.
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« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2010, 01:16:15 PM »

I am crazy.  That's why I so fully recognize it in others. 

Hmmmm...

And, you could find a 36 hole Sturmey Archer wheel pretty easily on Ebay where you would have a greater number of rims available to you which would greatly increase the number of price ranges you could spend on that new rim.  A 40 hole would be harder to find.

Also, I'd be a lot more interested seeing that hub attached to a 20 hole super light sports rim.  Now that is crazy.
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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2010, 04:28:39 PM »

Ummmm Dan, I don't think that would work for multiple reasons, one is that the lacing pattern probably wouldn't line up correctly with the appropriate hole offset-wise (I just made up a word).  I still think drilling a rim is a bad idea in general anyway.
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« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2010, 05:51:33 PM »

pretty sure he's talking about drilling a hub. not a rim.
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« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2010, 11:18:46 PM »

Oh, I didn't read closely and thought you meant the offset from one flange to another.
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« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2010, 11:29:32 PM »

Oh, well, I retract my statement.


New statement: Don't drill the hub.
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